tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.comments2024-03-12T18:34:25.594-04:00The Shipler ReportDavehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00305265860388931637noreply@blogger.comBlogger502125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-42183547145432478512024-03-06T09:58:23.883-05:002024-03-06T09:58:23.883-05:00No one knows this area better than you Dave. - suc...No one knows this area better than you Dave. - such valuable insights Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-33784984701945427552024-03-05T06:33:39.954-05:002024-03-05T06:33:39.954-05:00Wow, you're more observant than I am. In all t...Wow, you're more observant than I am. In all the years since that latest edition has been out, I've never noticed the omission. I don't know the designer and therefore can't guess, but I assume it was a graphic art decision to run the skyline of Jerusalem along the bottom, avoiding cluttering the space reserved for type, not intended as a statement. You might also have noticed--but perhaps not--the tiny Star of David on the spine. Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305265860388931637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-87402942405406283452024-03-04T15:59:53.893-05:002024-03-04T15:59:53.893-05:00I am reading your book Arab and Jew. I find it in...I am reading your book Arab and Jew. I find it interesting that on the cover of a book entitled Arab and Jew, there are NO symbols of the Jewish character of Jerusalem, which shows many mosques, minarets and churches, but makes sure no one sees the Western Wall below the Al Aqsa mosque. Coincidence???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-69023880359707880642023-12-11T21:09:36.503-05:002023-12-11T21:09:36.503-05:00Thank you for this very informative post!Thank you for this very informative post!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-35416777830800783252023-11-28T15:59:28.158-05:002023-11-28T15:59:28.158-05:00Brad, thanks so much. It's great to hear from ...Brad, thanks so much. It's great to hear from you!Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305265860388931637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-90819216800932584012023-11-27T21:56:31.695-05:002023-11-27T21:56:31.695-05:00David
I learn something new, every time I read you...David<br />I learn something new, every time I read your posts and books. <br />Thank you<br />BradBrad Claytonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-27991932628678136282023-11-04T13:39:54.874-04:002023-11-04T13:39:54.874-04:00I was also introduced to your work through the lat...I was also introduced to your work through the latest episode of The Daily. I appreciate the balanced historical account that truly gives weight to the heavy grievances experienced by both sides. I look forward to reading more of your writing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-23883314144517631902023-11-03T15:48:24.476-04:002023-11-03T15:48:24.476-04:00I am very glad to be introduced to your writing af...I am very glad to be introduced to your writing after hearing your excellent interview today on The Daily. I had been writing to my government (Canadian) to urge them to consider that both sides have suffered terrible grievances; your work sums it up so well. I will remember some of your key phrases: the arsenal of memory, and the mismatched narratives. Your analysis makrs me think there is no longer a two state solution, and no end in sight, God help us all. <br />I would like to hear your thoughts about the regional and global politics as well.<br />Thank you! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-80848850707636830572023-10-19T12:19:16.000-04:002023-10-19T12:19:16.000-04:00Very good piece, David.
I think it is worth notin...Very good piece, David.<br /><br />I think it is worth noting that the venture of Zionism was conceived in the late 19th century (officially 1897) as a colonial effort and that these early Zionists used the term when promoting Zionism to the Europeans, because, at that time, colonialism was considered a force for good. It was a 19th century idea. As a point of reference, the American Indian Wars against the Lakota Sioux ended around this time (the Wounded Knee massacre was in 1890) though fighting and repression against the Native Americans continued some years after that. In this context, it is sadly ironic that the last great colonial power, Great Britain, gave its largest and most profitable colony, India, its independence in 1948, the same year the state of Israel was established with the 1948 war and the expulsion of 750,000 local Arabs (as you mention).<br /><br />There are many reasons for the creation of the Zionist project in the late 19th century, primarily the murderous pogroms happening in Russia, but also the emergence of the idea of nationalism, of “nationhood” that was emerging with the decline of the great empires and of course the long history of Jewish oppression in Europe. These include the scapegoating and massacres of Jews during the Black Plague, the expulsion or forced conversion of Jews in Spain, economic restrictions and ghettoizing of Jews throughout Europe, and of course the Holocaust during World War II.<br /><br />As you know, this is a very complicated history. Having been at the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota, the poorest county in the United States, I found a sad resonance there with the Gaza Strip. Both places were created in war and displacement, both places where the conquering power chose to repress the culture of the indigenous people, both places where poverty and suffering have been allowed to continue. This is to say that there is some hypocrisy on the part of Americans who condemn Israel for its colonial roots while ignoring our own.Robert Gardnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-61021562183803611372023-10-19T10:13:09.952-04:002023-10-19T10:13:09.952-04:00A brilliant and unfortunately depressing analysis,...A brilliant and unfortunately depressing analysis, David. Thank you. Let’s hope the historical truth you document here will someday lead to justice and peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-9913957352377930782023-09-23T11:42:29.035-04:002023-09-23T11:42:29.035-04:00Superior piece, David. Cheers, TerrySuperior piece, David. Cheers, TerryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-34907968649376970522023-09-07T16:20:44.556-04:002023-09-07T16:20:44.556-04:00The quote is from Jefferson's draft of the Dec...The quote is from Jefferson's draft of the Declaration of Independence, not from a letter. He was in the Colonies at the time, 1776. He was in France when the Constitution was drafted in 1787. His bigoted images of Blacks are vividly recorded in his Notes on the State of Virginia, which does note his view that Blacks and whites could never coexist peacefully. In sum, a man as complicated as his society.<br /><br />Your last sentence, "he certainly wasn't the exaggeration you misconstrued," I don't understand. What exaggeration? Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305265860388931637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-14361751963355877982023-09-07T01:28:23.468-04:002023-09-07T01:28:23.468-04:00He was elected the Minister of France before Shays...He was elected the Minister of France before Shays Rebellion, why wouldn't he had been in France? Also, that quote you referenced completely omitted the majority. Properly, it goes: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants," at the end of a letter to the son-in-law of John Adams. More or less, Jefferson respected the Rebellion and thought of the idea of rebelling against the government an expected outcome in the pursuits of freedom.<br /><br />As for slaves, his opinion seemed conflicted with the times. He thought the slaves were no different than animals and as soon as they were freed, they would slaughter everyone. He did believe slavery was wrong, but his ignorance through the teachings of the times kept him from filing the emancipation bills he wrote.<br /><br />I won't argue if he's honorable or not, but he certainly wasn't the exaggeration you misconstrued.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-75396624951239272342023-08-31T18:50:38.565-04:002023-08-31T18:50:38.565-04:00I appreciated your satire. Thank
you for taking t...I appreciated your satire. Thank<br />you for taking the time to write. His face is frightening…..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-78814680462002800952023-08-27T12:52:43.447-04:002023-08-27T12:52:43.447-04:00Brilliant ... SNL is missing a great talent here !...Brilliant ... SNL is missing a great talent here !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-22946114879117430552023-08-22T07:54:12.064-04:002023-08-22T07:54:12.064-04:00It’s depressing that the “well-informed” ingredie...It’s depressing that the “well-informed” ingredient in the mix is also under threat, at least here in the U.S. This week I have read articles about the removal of liberal arts programs from one state university and the growing sense among many that a college degree is not necessary. All the while, public secondary schools are under assault and restricted in their ability to teach history accurately or address current national issues honestly. So, future generations are even less likely to be able to look beyond their noses and see what might happen if their opponents obtained the powers they have granted themselves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-29960441035224666892023-07-28T11:14:54.129-04:002023-07-28T11:14:54.129-04:00Thanks for this Mr. Shipler. Fills in the blanks. ...Thanks for this Mr. Shipler. Fills in the blanks. I wonder if the current protest take into account the ongoing injustice and oppression afforded Palestinians?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-9963472916906111712023-03-08T16:56:48.202-05:002023-03-08T16:56:48.202-05:00THANK YOU FOR THIS!THANK YOU FOR THIS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-79414106337792369452023-03-04T13:51:03.058-05:002023-03-04T13:51:03.058-05:00David, I appreciate your Podcast, especially your ...David, I appreciate your Podcast, especially your latest one about the war, which you describe so accurately, I agree with you and I think the war probably will not be “won” by either Ukraine or Russia. Meanwhile, the death and destruction is overwhelming. I have re read what George Kennan said in February,1997 about the “Fateful Error”, when NATO decisions were being made. As usual, there is no way to turn back the clock, but we could learn by our mistakes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-44621232909455361682023-03-04T08:39:23.009-05:002023-03-04T08:39:23.009-05:00Thank you for this wonderful article. It really he...Thank you for this wonderful article. It really helped me understand this sad situation. I don’t see a solution. Heartbreaking.Lauren Pacuitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-40599817004733152702023-02-10T20:49:05.642-05:002023-02-10T20:49:05.642-05:00I don't really care who wins as long as it'...I don't really care who wins as long as it's a close and exciting game. The teams I would have rooted for got winnowed out in the playoffs.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305265860388931637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-3415778686490798642023-02-10T15:54:20.303-05:002023-02-10T15:54:20.303-05:00I do understand (and totally agree, Dave) .... but...I do understand (and totally agree, Dave) .... but there is one other lacuna: who are you rooting for ??!!!<br />;-))dandelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00242250376652748008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-8379643849227170162023-02-10T12:37:47.083-05:002023-02-10T12:37:47.083-05:00A nice observation, David, and another element of ...A nice observation, David, and another element of the game that I wish could be exported off the field. We just have to be careful not to let those feel-good moments obscure our understanding of the racial frictions outside the stadium.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00305265860388931637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-4237890271438802122023-02-10T12:33:56.337-05:002023-02-10T12:33:56.337-05:00What I see as especially wonderful is black and wh...What I see as especially wonderful is black and white players embracing in mutually felt ecstasy at epiphanal moments in all such contests--touchdowns, interceptions, sacks, turnovers. That equality of ecstasy is really to be treasured as part of the American spirit and a central component of the American landscape.dandelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00242250376652748008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5176006268302183776.post-25823112830854191212022-12-19T08:09:03.380-05:002022-12-19T08:09:03.380-05:00Fantastic investigation of the facts. Shipler once...Fantastic investigation of the facts. Shipler once again hits the nail on the head. Only hope those in power rethink their approach and the damage they are doing by working to destroy of livelihood of so many hard working and intelligent lobster men and women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com